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Old 08-05-2006, 09:23 PM   #31
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This thread is hilarious.


Zoints:
rogers: I hate it
j883366: What's to hate
rogers: The ad
loco: It is crap. taz is crap. They spammed zoints and are run by nazis. They banned me (and yet there's no evidence of that on your taz profile, though it's possible they don't show it)
rogers: yay a supporter (for...?)
j883366: They've given me 100 hits.
rogers: That's crap
loco: I agree
j883366: *does the wise thing and bows out gracefully*
*rogers and loco have some discussion about how rogers gets half a million hits a month from here*


So what exactly is this thread about? How many times rogers + loco can repeat 'it's crap' and throw in a little of how crap taz is. I mean come on, have you honestly got nothing better to do?
And 100 hits is 100 hits. They're free referrals. I'd rather have those than have ones I had to pay for. Who gives a **** if you give out "3000+". That's the entire point, making peopel aware of different sites. Different people, different interests, different sites. It works. If there are similar sites then people choose the one they prefer, like they do with EVERY VISITED SITE ON THE INTERNET.


Reality checks:
Zoints: Alexa rank of 26k over the last week
Taz: 8k over the last week
vBH: 25k over the last week.
perfectforce.com: 490k over the last week (yeah I can see that half a million referrals straight away! - btw that's 16000 per day which is 5 per second, which is 4,500 over the default 15 minute period and theres no way in hell I saw "4500 guests browsing" on the occasions I visited.)

If it's equal to vBH's popularity after just a few months then it can't be that "crap" can it. If you maintain it is what are you saying about vBH?


More reality checks:
People use Zoints. If you don't like it, don't use it. If other people do use it, let them. Repeating "it's crap" over and over is totally pointless.
Taz are not nazis of any kind. When zoints first came in yes it was spammed around, but Sandman listened carefully and removed profile>zoints link, he removed the pink box, he gave us options. Now it's hardly noticable.

And since this topic is already off it's own topic and I'm having a rant, can I just say that the vb.org vs vBH mentality that's going round some people is seriously childish. You're both doing more or less the same thing and petty squabbles doesn't benefit the community, it hinders it, all over some stupid point scoring.
Personally I came to vBH because I saw them as a nice alternative to then-certain attitudes on vb.org (which have now been rectified I might add), and yet there's still the odd childish spat. For the sake of the vBulletin name and community, grow the hell up.

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Old 08-05-2006, 10:00 PM   #32
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^^^ What he said, except... oh, nevermind... no exceptions.... :p




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Old 08-06-2006, 03:09 AM   #33
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So what exactly is this thread about? How many times rogers + loco can repeat 'it's crap' and throw in a little of how crap taz is. I mean come on, have you honestly got nothing better to do?
okay slick.. try looking a little closer.. I said zoints is crap Once.. other times I was explaining the the user who posted his/her stats that they were more then likely giving many more links out then coming in..

Also,, I noted that taz is crap only Once !

you might also notice this thread was asking about zoints,, if u don't want to read it, then don't look..
( see how that works ? I know u do, cuz u just said it too )

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Taz are not Nazis of any kind. When zoints first came in yes it was spammed around, but Sandman listened carefully and removed profile>zoints link, he removed the pink box, he gave us options. Now it's hardly noticable.
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ya, okay,, then why was my last post right b4 I was banned for it,, asking why the zoints profile link was in the navbar..

The fact is, one.. this thread was about zoints, and roger and I got off topic but my last post was saying sorry for hijacking it,, and I think rogers 1/2 mill referrals is bs too..
and the fact is, I was banned from that Nazis camp taz because I voiced my disgust of all the zoints "pushing" that was going on.. and thats why that %$%# sandman banned me..

If I was pushing a site on one of my sites, and someone voiced how they didn't like the banners and links all over the place, I sure wouldn't ban them..

Taz is nothing more then a nub link exchange site,, any day of the week, 80% of the new post are 5:5 10:10 10000:10000 post exchange threads..


now next time you mention my name in your rant, at least read what I said if your bashing me :devious:
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Old 08-06-2006, 05:03 AM   #34
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I've never been on taz and if you look up i never said anything about it.




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Old 08-06-2006, 07:17 AM   #35
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I can't decide if you've both missed my point, or if you're choosing to ignore it.

Having an opinion = fine.
Voicing an opinion = fine, constructively.
Pushing that opinion when someone else replies = not cool.

Saying anything is "crap" is not constructive, when someone expresses how Zoints is doing them some good, repeating "that's crap" and making some irrelevant figures up makes you look stupid in the process.

Once again, if you don't like something don't use it.
Making threads with words like "crap" and "nazis" is not helpful to anyone. Now if you were to make a thread inviting opinion and discussion, or having half way towards an open mind, then that would at least be constructive.




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ok so nazi's is wrong and yeah i missed your point.

Loco.m and me kind of hijacked the thrad yesterday.

Do you actually use zoints.




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Old 08-06-2006, 12:01 PM   #37
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pleased to see this thread going back in the right direction

and give constructive opions on the zoint's plugin

no flaming a product please
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:24 PM   #38
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Yes, to be contructive it...

Does zoints include SEO?




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Old 08-06-2006, 12:30 PM   #39
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It's hard to say you don't like something if you have never tried it, ignorance is bliss.

Let's keep this civil.




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Old 08-06-2006, 12:32 PM   #40
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ok, civil is good. Are we going to comment on this which was the purpose of in the first place. I don't like it because it just seems a bad idea. They take more than you get. I made the topic to find out more info on it.




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